DannyDoLittle, May 15, 2020. Planning to put down new tiles on bathroom floor, which is 22mm chipboard. Cutting Width (Kerf): 1. All our standard chipboard is from well-managed forests. It’s 22mm P5 chipboard over 100mm PIR. £22. Will hope to lay chipboard directly above - would I need 18 or 22mm floorboards?I lightly spray the floor first with water and apply 2 concentric rectangular rings around the board and a final straight line across the middle. Cost of buying and installing decent quality ply is less than T&G. The depth seems to be around 22mm. I had 22mm chipboard flooring. From trade packs for commercial tradespeople to individual packs for domestic use, there's something for every job. 8 or no. The choice is up to you wether you fix 100mm or 300mm but i know which id do. Doing the right thing helps them to remain sustainable and benefits us in the long run. Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for 18mm P5 T&G Chipboard Flooring (240x600x18mm) x 20 Sheet Deal at the best online prices at eBay! Free delivery for many products. 66. It occurred to me I haven't yet purchased any screws and was thinking of getting the Screw-Tite 2 PZ Double Self-Countersunk Screws 3. Moisture resistant. 22mm P5 Moisture Resistant Chipboard Flooring T&G 2400mm x 600mm (8' x 2') URN: 4005002. just pumps, Aug 26, 2022. Use a nail punch and knock the nails right through and draw a pencil line along the holes that are left. Jord86, Apr 3, 2018. On top of this, but not directly on a joist is built a stud wall going in the same direction as the joists. 00 m-f. You then know for sure that the boards won't smell and the floor will be flat. VAT. £54. Add for Delivery. 09 for 22mm. Inc. I was thinking of using floor-tite screws following quite a few recommendations and reviews from Screwfix/Ebay/Amazon and Youtube (Ultimate Handyman video 22mm x 2400mm x 600mm Egger Protect Grey Tongue and Grooved Chipboard Flooring TG4 EGGER Protect is manufactured from an EGGER P5 flooring grade particleboard with a unique, weather resistant surface layer applied to both the top and underside of the board. handyman. I need 5 sheets of 18mm and 5 sheets of 22mm. Altogether not much more than 75mm. Installation too would be tricky. If the client is going to have a tiled floor then I would go with the screeded option or at the very least replace the chipboard with T&G 22mm. I'm fitting a 900x900 stone resin shower tray in an upstairs bathroom with conventional T&G floorboards. Durable, high-density moisture-resistant P5 grade chipboard. Then nothing above so a good 6” gap to the boards. Tongue and groove so all locks together (glue joints also) and lay as a floating floor. Or buy as many packs of screws your budget can afford and divide the number screws by the number of boards so you use all the screws. The floor level would ideally come up a bit too. Belt and braces. Including brands like CaberBoard and SterlingZero OSB in a range of sizes and thicknesses, our chipboard & OSB is suitable for applications such as floors. uk. Bosch Expert Multi-Material Holesaw 22mm (937RR) compare. 5 or 3 times the thickness of the chipboard for length. What is the best material to lay on floor as a sound base for the tiles to be. can't say I have ever come across any flooring that has had adhesive onto joists ,chipboard ,wood,or ply. . Order Floor-Tite PZ Double-Countersunk Thread-Cutting Floorboard Screws 4. Including brands like CaberBoard and SterlingZero OSB in a range of sizes and thicknesses, our chipboard & OSB is suitable for applications such as floors. Screwfix Community Forum. New Turbo TX Woodscrews. com. ADH New Member. The floating flooring is made up of the old garage concrete base covered. I strongly recommend the joist approach, as the alternative (floating floor) requires a dead flat concrete base, and I don't know of any self levelling screeds that can achieve that. Was £14. 6mm. com. I about to install some 4mm interlocking vinyl flooring in a small cloakroom/store which with underlay is around 6mm. There is a 30% restocking charge on returns. Screwfix Community Forum. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Carpenters' Talk > Who sells 20mm chipboard? Discussion in 'Carpenters' Talk' started by FUNDIMOLD, Oct 30, 2021. 22mm Chipboard Flooring is a high strength wood particle boards, manufactured and engineered for all domestic most other floors, this is the most commonly used flooring board in the UK. 4. £18. Read more. Meet our suppliers. It is perfect for domestic applications as well as all general flooring applications. coefficient of thermal expansion of plywood is in the order of 0. Then pipes / cables lying on top. Will be replacing the old boards which are full of gaps having been ripped up too many times, with 18mm flooring grade chipboard. 04 mm/m/deg C which equates to 3-4mm across a 5m room with a temperature range of 20 degrees - easy to achieve between winter and summer with the sun on the floor! - MDF is more stable @ around 0. You'll need 1mm for the DPM, 40mm for the insulation, 22mm for the chipboard and whatever for the final flooring (e. £10. cant belive a joiner would lay normal 22mm t&g chipboard flooring and allow it to be exposed to the elements. Pollowick, Aug 22, 2018 #3. 27 inc VAT Each. Wickes offer a great selection of Plywood, MDF Sheets, Chipboard and Hardboard, for various projects from the home to the building site. I have looked through the forum and some people recommend 2. Buy Flooring Screws at Screwfix. stevie. The blade (24 teeth) is quite burnt, and the saw kept stalling. it takes a little longer but screws do a far better job. 4. So how thick is the insulation. Moisture resistant. Reisser screws and a good quality exterior pva lashed on. !" The Best Screws for Flooring. Not that there was one before. There is 1 row of strutting at the center of the span. OSB is composed of resin-impregnated wood strips arranged in parallel layers. Don’t forget to glue the joins and screw the floor down with oiled caberfloor screws (from screwfix). If possible, use 22mm thick boards over 18mm thick, but. Ensure that the screw is just on or below the surface of the chipboard. hallbeck, Jan 23,. Whats the best method of laying a chipboard floor? i was going to screw the first one down then glue and screw the next one and so on. rogerk101 Screwfix Select. tounge and grove chip board used in conservatory. Using 8'x2' flooring chipboard you will cover 3. Do I have unrealistic expectations of this saw, or was I perhaps using the wrong blade?Mark the cut line with straight edge. Wickes Chipboard Loft Panels - 320 x 1220mm - Pack of 3 added to "My Project List". The standard 18mm t&g chipboard sheet is 600mm x 2. The floor will finished with Floor Tiles. 22 chipboard is used as the stock flooring on most jobs without any problems the boards with a green tint to them are the best as these are water resistant to. 95 for 10 depending on floor thickness & VAT & of course the router to fit it & the price is out of all proportion to the job needed. ),not keen on using mortar. just pumps Screwfix Select. 1. 22mm chipboard flooring P5 moisture-resistant is a high-performance flooring panel that provides the perfect base for subsequent floor laying operations such as tiles, carpets,. masterdiy, Dec 21, 2018 #6. (With good support provided by the joists plus rigid insulation, 18mm chipboard would probably be fine, and it's even cheaper. Tongue and groove design for easy installation. 11. I’m using Reisser 4. Andrew Morris Member. Our products and applications specialist, Derek Spears, demonstrates the correct installation method of our new CaberShieldPlus chipboard flooring with out C. Smooth sanded surface. £15 is a rough average per meter square. If you buy full size PIR boards and cut them down then you would probably be better off with 400mm centres for the battens (or thereabouts depending on least wastage of. Under Maintenance. Plywood 1000%. 82 per sheet (Inc. I think my 2 current options are: a) Paint the chipboard with black bitumen paint (blackjack) so it doesn't absorb any moisture from the mortar mix (absorbing water could mean the mortar sets weaker / cause chipboard to swell) and then press on with putting down the tray Plane down the tongues by about half and remove the sharp corners and then on the two removable boards, plane a small chamfer on the underside corner of the tongue side. It's called karma. co. 2 per board (plank) into every joist spaced approximately 1/4 of the width of the plank in from each edge. squeaks. £10. 2. I'm installing some chipboard flooring however my joist centres are 370mm (not 400mm) so I'm having to do a lot more cuts. 0 X 60mm screws but have just discovered a Spax floorboard screw. Returns Policy. VAT £4. As for fixing boards down it's the same again. Multi-Head Countersinks Screw. Install insulation/noggins/stronger new floor (18mm T&G OSB boards - money dictates not. It has a hardwearing, anti-slip surface (tested in accordance with BS 7976-2) on the top and underside of the board, which helps to prevent moisture penetration. rogerk101, Feb 18, 2021 #2. Well that's ok, if they were 24 inches/600odd mm then you'd have to use 22mm thickness material which may limit you to chipboard as I'm unsure if you can get T and G Ply in a certain thickness, google it though whatever you opt for use Tongue and groove as its stronger and eliminates the need for noggins at the edges. Wickes P5 Tongue and Groove Chipboard Flooring - 22 x 600 x 2400mm. 4m and cost around a 12 quid. 6 size. P5 moisture resistant T&G chipboard sheeting would be the usual choice for flooring, available in 18 and 22mm thicknesses. question is, is it still ok to have a floating sub floor either a solid oak floor or kardean? CGN Screwfix Select. 1. Product code. Delivery. Leave an expansion gap of approx 10mm all around the perimeter of the room. FREE next day delivery available, free collection in 1 minute. Discussion in ' Builders' Talk ' started by Gerry Built, Dec 4, 2007 . There's a screed underneath it and assuming block and beam under that. Click & Collect. £18. One adhesive does all - our D4 Glue saves time and money for the installation of chipboard flooring. The standard 18mm t&g chipboard sheet is 600mm x 2. The floor has dropped under the stud wall by about 6mm (in the middle of the. Im thinking: DPM Levelling compound (flexible one) 2-3mm 50mm insulation board Chip board (approx) 22mm does this sound right?ex. If you are feeling really adventurous, and want extra strength take up the chipboard and lay HardieFloor! 18 or 25 thick T&G boards direct on the joists. coefficient of thermal expansion of plywood is in the order of 0. CaberFix Tape 50m x 45mm Grey. 22mm P5 Moisture Resistant Tongue & Groove Chipboard Flooring 2400mm x 600mm (8' x 2') SKU. Been thanked: 1708 times. Totally exposed to the elements for a couple of months and got leathered by the rain on many occasions. £28. I have just had a ground floor extension on my house completed and the builder installed a timber suspended floor. Easy to install. Latest Offers At Screwfix. Put 270mm insulation down and there'll be very limited space left. Hi, looking for help with options here. I tend to get about 3 boards per tube of adhesive and use 15 No More Ply screws per board spaced about every 300mm. 03-0. 40° Thread for Secure Fixing & High Pull-Out Resistance. I've just checked Celotex website. Today I’ve taken up the carpet to have a closer look. NEW. Clear all. DIYDave. Re: Laying 18mm T&G chipboard flooring. Multi-Head Countersinks Screw. My understanding having taken a lot of opinion is that I need to: - prime the chipboard (with something like BAL Prime APD)Screwfix Community Forum. This will help to ensure that your vinyl tiles go on well, and produce decent finish. The thread of a chipboard screw is self-tapping - the screws are fully threaded up to and including 75mm in length, and anything longer is partially threaded with 70mm of thread. Features and benefits. The most common size for chipboard flooring is 600mm x 2400mm and a thickness of between 18-22mm. 4. pooh New Member. I thought I was paying attention. The range includes screws from top branded suppliers. Whatever you do, mark where pipes run and if there are cables through notches - always worth a. Brand new 100‰ treated Chipboard flooring water resistant P5 18mm x 2400mm x 600mm £17 each 22mm thick £18 each Foil loft insulation also available Collection and delivery available Contact Andy on 07800-75-11-47 . The floor is limited head height, so overboarding isn't a preferred option. My work will be (in order of layers): 1) DPM 1000 gauge with joints taped with Polythene joint tape. 2. ) I've tiled directly onto 22mm waterproof chipboard in 5 bathrooms and 1 kitchen and all are still good many years on. Divide that by 600mm and you will have 6. Bobby86 New Member Im nearing the end now of my. Screw and glue the floor down and it wont squeak at all. There is a lot to consider here. Use a hanger if is on a. Delivery. The tongue and groove design. 5x20 screws every 150mm in each direction. "Purchased these flooring screws to lay a 22mm chipboard floor. Spiral point, part thread and under-head ribs for self-countersinking. 6mm ply, straightish room, £12m2, 5x4m room £250-ish. !! Active Member. structural 18 mm ply is fine ,you may have to add some timber noggins to offer further support at edges where butting up to chipboard on. Chipboard floors have never thrown me - out with circular, or the good old floor board saw! I have also done the RR trick - one screw back in through the pilot drills hole. Loft boards. The span of the joists they will be on are 3. Inc. You'll need to juggle the costs - which is cheaper, 400 centres with 18mm chip and 12mm board but more joists or fewer joists and 22mm/15mm as above. 49 per m2. KIAB, Oct 4, 2019 #14. I plan on laying T&G, 22mm, P5 chipboard flooring soon and would like to know what type and size screws should be used. Snap a parallel chalk line from the joint of the last board down the length of the boards allowing the clearance you need, then run a circular saw along a screwed down straight edge the correct depth, to cut through the boards, can take them up without damaging the edges of what's staying. 30 in some areas but typicaly 8 to 8. Enquire about this product. 9m ect. - 3" original joists with 2" x 2" screwed on top,. 22mm Egger P5 tongue and groove chipboard is a moisture-resistant structural grade flooring board. Paslode Nails are classified according to Eurocode 5 Service Class 1, 2 and 3 providing a suitable nail for every application. Then the underlay and the vinyl tiles. 60 per sheet at my local building supplier), and it's much better than plywood. Read less. Customer Reviews. 79 Inc Vat. If you are using sheet flooring the space screws at 4 to 6 inch spacing into every joist. When you laid the chipboard it probably wasnt siting down flush for whatever reason all I can suggest, rather than taking the whole thing up is to just cut out the bad section, with a plunge saw or skill and a guide and plonk a new bit in, sort of a floating floor within a floating floor, how much does it move by the wayWhilst doing this, walk around & make the floor creak, the movement will pull the glue in, then apply more & repeat. c, Nov 10, 2005. You mentioned timber flooring,not chipboard hence my post about inferior chipboard. The existing floor is 20mm thick and I cant find a match at B&Q or my. Single Bottle. hope that helps. Browse from our wide range of sheet materials ideal for interior or exterior projects. Size of boards I gather you mean the length and width if so choose the boards based on the size of the area. This means when load is applied to the floor it moves and. 24. 51 per metre. The ply will be a waste of time: just do 22mm and floor will be good and solid. We have recently erected an extension and knocked through from the existing house. Currently in Stock. Prices from. 0 X 60mm screws but have just discovered a Spax floorboard screw. If I'm tiling over the chipboard I space them every. Width: 600mm. 600mm centres using 22mm T&G chipboard flooring AND 15mm plasterboard. Hi, so I have just had a company in to install LVT flooring in several upstairs rooms (which I'm very pleased with) and as part of the process they put 6mm plywood over the 22mm chipboard covering the joists and secured the ply. AcidOverride-. I’ve been to a lot of builders merchants and they all say caberfloor on them . Steel Slotted Barrel to Aid Removal of Debris. £15. Just screw any creaky/loose floorboards down, if any are badly damaged, replace them. The floor level goes from 155mm to 260mm across 4m. 60 days free credit available. The fitting instructions aren't clear, but say to remove "suspended" flooring & replace with 18mm marine ply, before bedding the tray on sand & cement. I plan on laying T&G, 22mm, P5 chipboard flooring soon and would like to know what type and size screws should be used. I watched a video on the caberfix glue on caberfix flooring and it looked exactly the same as my flooring I. 57 2 Pack. 25mm seems safe. 12. Not quite sure what you mean by standard,if you mean chipboard flooring i would agree with verycleverman and screw down. We offer stainless steel chipboard screws, as well as BZP and YBZP options. Discuss Anyone had experience with pre-routed 22mm chipboard for wet UFH in the Tiling on Underfloor Heating area at TilersForums. The 2-3mm gap from the saw should be enough to get a chisel in and lever them up. . Smooth sanded surface. mdf is not designed to support loads and if you were to use standard mdf if you had any kind of leak or spill it would puff up. 2400x600x22mm. The installation needs 1200 guage DPM below the insulation, followed by chipboard. Will be bedding tray down with silicone( as per M. P5 is a moisture resistant structural grade flooring board with tongued and grooved edges for easy installation, available in 18mm and 22mm thicknesses. Plywood. 99 Inc Vat. Helps if you take a sample !!,I am going to be fitting a Mira 1400 x 800 x 40mm stone resin shower tray. If the joist spacing is 600mm then use 22mm chipboard. Making jobs easier, reducing critical time on home improvements or housing developments. Chipboard flooring has T&G-type edges which makes it very solid at its joints - use adhesive such as polyurethane along all joints (expands slightly as it. Screwfix customers rate this product 4. It is also highly advisable that your chipboard. Screws. Structurally it's not necessary, the chipboard is designed to carry itself but it can creak and squeak after a while. I certainly wouldn't go pine T&G unless you actually wanted the T&G floor look. Bottom line is shop around a bit. . Product code: 164516. You want p5 tongue and groove . I believe they recommend 6 for floors and 12 for walls. 89 Inc Vat. Our range of Chipboard Flooring and Chipboard Sheets consist of a high standard grade, which has superior strength to support your building project. This addition makes Caberdek chipboard ideal for use in new builds or construction sites where the flooring may become exposed to harsh weather conditions. an 8x2 sheet of 22mm T&G flooring grade plywood costs about £20 a sheet which is 3-4 times the cost of chipboard. 18. Mr. The chipboard may rot? Though it’s effectively double bagged. Pollowick Screwfix Select. Lay 9mm sp101 ply, then 10mm or. Use Kronofloor P5 18mm for domestic applications with a maximum joist/batten spacing up to 450mm centres or. The plan is, take up the old chip, insulate between the joists with celotex or. A room 4 x 4 metres would cost about £380 if using pine t&g boards 140mm wide by 21mm thick (B&Q). Today I’ve taken up the carpet to have a closer look. Go for a 4mm diameter and 25 long as it will ensure a little safety margin. I think my plan is now to lift up existing timber floor boards and put down a new tongue and groove chipboard floor of the same thickness (22mm). £6. Discussion in 'Tilers' Talk' started by C J ord, Aug 22, 2018. Product code: 116420. ? How best to level from front to back. Buy Power Saws at Screwfix. VAT. What happens is that joiners push the screws too deep into the joist and leave the screw embedded in the softer core of the chipboard. What are your thoughts regarding screws for 22mm P6 chipboard flooring. Yup so the plan is: Existing garage is concrete which is a 75mm lower than the current house level. Size: W: 600mm L: 2400mm T: 22mm. Kronofloor Selection. £1,345. The conversion was completed about 8 years ago and we are looking to separate the lounge room with a stud wall. Fine Cut. Home Forums > Screwfix Community Forum > Carpenters' Talk > Chipboard ! Discussion in 'Carpenters' Talk' started by Vic_39, Apr 20, 2022. You could simply cut chipboard rectangles - say 4" wide by whatever gap is in between the joists - and screw them to the underside of the T&G, with half (2") sticking out. Double-Countersunk Head for Reduced Shear. Paslode Nails. Length: 2400mm. Set the blade depth to just less than the thickness of the board and slice down the flooring above two adjacent joists just to the inside of the nail line. Inc. Click & Collect. co. The floor is 22mm T&G chipboard that has been nailed down to 400mm centre joists. My thoughts are to attach new joist to the exist joist, to stiffen the old joist and provide a level surface then cover with either 22mm 'Green Chipboard' or 18mm WPB Ply with Noggins at the board joints. Wickes Chipboard Loft Panels - 320 x 1220mm - Pack of 3. PowerChange Plus Arbor. I almost always fit engineered now try talking the customer into 22mm engineered with 7mm wear layer. Administrator Trade Member Author Offline Ask The Trades Posts: 8812 Total Thanks: 108 For This Post: 0. I would avoid using sheet material for flooring as it would be even worse than T&G chipboard for gaining access. Structaflor R-flor is particleboard flooring that has been laminated with a metallized foil layer on the underside of the board, in order to: • Increase total R-Value of flooring system •. I space them every 300mm to 400mm along each joist depending on how much traffic they're expecting and how much flex there is in the joists. Pay in 30 days. 4. For FlexiPex 12mm pipe at 150mm centres. I pay about £12 for a 1200mm x 600mm 22mm board. Attach a piece of timber to the joist to support the edge of the new floor. 22mm x 2400mm x 600mm Egger Protect Grey Tongue and Grooved Chipboard Flooring TG4. This is sitting on an old pine floor supported by joists over a cellar. Jord86, Mar 12, 2017 #3. £ 1,068. Moisture resistant. is he a real joiner ?after 2 weeks in the elements go and have a look at the joints and the cut edges and see how much they swell up. Our Moisture Resistant MDF is available in a variety of thicknesses (6mm, 9mm, 12mm, 15mm, 18mm, 22mm, 25mm) and multiple sizes. Cut Depth: 55mm. Features and benefits. No time to rip out and replace slab -. Anyway my brother wants to nail a 20mm strip on to the 150 x 50 Floor Joists to bring the level up as I wont be replacing the joists!. vespat5 New Member. VAT. Do i need to put a DPM down next before the pir insulation? And also, do i then need to install a vapour control layer on top of the insulation prior to laying 22mm chipboard?Whatever your project, we've got all your timber sheet requirements covered including MDF, OSB, Plywood, Pinewood, Chipboard and Hardboard. It occurred to me I haven't yet purchased any screws and was thinking of getting the Screw-Tite 2 PZ Double Self-Countersunk Screws 3. 22mm x 2400mm x 600mm Egger Protect Grey Tongue and Grooved Chipboard Flooring TG4. Pollowick Screwfix Select. . rogerk101 Screwfix Select. To avoid the possibility of noisy floors ensure that joints are glued with a waterproof D3 adhesive. Anything we need to consider or is it just as easy as cutting to size. Pvc Fitter, Jun 2, 2009. My plan is to lay dpm, 120mm PIR with bearers in front of doors, 22mm t&g chipboard floating floor, electric ufh mat, 10mm self levelling compound making sure it’s very flat. i dont like it, it warps when wet, adhesive doesent adhere properly and its basically ****. Usually only the longest sides have tongue joints and you can carefully cut that tongue using a hand saw or a circular saw or a multitool. Which thickness Chipboard flooring should you use? Although chipboard floor boards are available in 18mm and 22mm thicknesses you will almost certainly need 22mm thick for. can anyone tell me best type of screw to fix 22mm chipboard to steel joists. Just use a circular saw, set the depth to 20mm and cut a small section out between the joists. Followed by vinyl. I was going to put down a traditional insulated screed floor in but was a bit put off by the drying time before laying floor covering, (estimated at around three months, give or take, based on 85mm screed at 1mm per day). 8 or no. Best Screws for Floorboards - Heco-Unix Floorboard Screw. Glue and screw some 2x1 or 3x1 on the underside of the remaining floor, screw from above and below if possible. How would you recommend bringing the floor up to level which would be 22mm. As long as the flooring is supported and level it should be fine. Sheet flooring (chipboard) works out cheaper but prone to future creaks and groans. cant belive a joiner would lay normal 22mm t&g chipboard flooring and allow it to be exposed to the elements. 5mm screws are too skinny, 4. MDF board and hardboard are suitable for a number of interior joinery jobs, including cabinetry and flooring, and are available in a range of sizes. The Chipboard Flooring Boards for use to overlay existing flooring or as a loft board for storage. on new buid when we lay a 22mm boards its standard to glue the joints and glue the joists that they are layed upon. We were hoping to have them on the first floor, but a little worried about the weight on the floor. IMHO - any wood screw provided it has a smooth shank at least as long as the thickness of the floorboarding. I've been buying water resistant 22mm T&G-all-round chipboard flooring boards (600 x 2400) from Buildbase for £8. It's also 600mm x 2400mm, which is much easier to manage than plywood which is 1220mm x 2440mm. Our chipboard flooring features a tongue and groove fitting system for easy installation. The oversite is compacted scalpings, 100mm insulation and then 200mm of concrete. I recently used 12mm backer for a floor - joists were are less than 300mm centres (nearer 250) and in between was the solid insulation for wet-underfloor heating so well supported. The sheets use high-density particleboard and are suitable for both domestic and commercial flooring.